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Dennorak
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Ancient Drew said:
Technically Palkeera was Khazard's mother and was born on Gielinor near the end of the Third Age, so it's possible that instead of the last Mahjarrat being the last dream, the Oracle may have been referring to the last direct Dream of Mah. By which I mean the last being that was directly created by Mah, and from what I've seen neither Khazard nor Moia have been to Freneskae. This could be the youngest Mahjarrat at the time when Icthlarin and Amascut came knocking, or that another Dream of Mah appeared when Amascut went loopy.

Wahisietel, I can't really say whether he was the youngest Freneskaean Mahjarrat or not. He may have gone with Icthlarin when he was a baby, or that he was born shortly after the Mahjarrat left. Either way he does seem to think that Muspah are fairy tales (although Azzanadra is one of the older ones and even he questioned whether they were real in FOTG), and Sliske was Freneskae born as he claimed that during his time there were more sacrifices than births, and that some Mahjarrat stayed behind. This means that the last Dream of Mah is either Wahisietel or another Mahjarrat that was very young when they left with Icthlarin, something that was created after Amascut met Mah (?), or something else that stayed behind. It might even be possible that the last Dream was created very recently.

There are no mahjarrat left that were directly created by Mah..... So if that's the case its a waste of interesting dialogue because whatever mahjarrat it would've been referring to is long dead.
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29-Sep-2016 16:55:19 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2016 16:56:03 by Dennorak

Hguoh
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Dennorak said:
There are no mahjarrat left that were directly created by Mah..... So if that's the case its a waste of interesting dialogue because whatever mahjarrat it would've been referring to is long dead.


No more directly created by Mah, sure. However, the Ritual of Enervation allowed them to siphon off Mah's energy and form new Mahjarrat from it.

But I really do't see how that would really impact what the Oracle's line could mean. They are the Mahjarrat race, and that name means Dreams of Mah. So even if none of the Mahjarrat are Mah's literal dreams, their species name still easily could refer to one of them.

Or, as is a common trope with prophecies, the final dream might refer to something else that will only make sense in hindsight.

29-Sep-2016 17:38:52 - Last edited on 29-Sep-2016 18:03:51 by Hguoh

Wahisietel
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Keep in mind the Oracle's dialogue was written in 2006.

Any updates and lore she was hinting towards have long since passed.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

29-Sep-2016 17:49:36

Hazeel
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Wahisietel said:
Keep in mind the Oracle's dialogue was written in 2006.


And updated further down the line.
Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

29-Sep-2016 18:54:51

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Mahjarrat are sustained by rituals, fuelled on sacrificed divine energy, something that Moia cannot take part in. Does this mean she possesses a soul, and therefore afterlife access?
She might be the perfect candidate for Sliske, who may be searching for a compatible soul.

29-Sep-2016 21:42:58

Maiden China
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Hazeel said:
Maiden China said:
to me, moia seems more like lucien's dream than mah's
the mahjarrat might be the dreams of mah, but any of them that aren't the originals aren't really her dreams


1) According to Jagex there are no orginals left--yeah I know that's illogical, but I'm just repeating them.

2) From my understanding, they are all created by essentially forcing Mah to make them.
well, the originals would be outrageously old, I guess

ah, that would make sense
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30-Sep-2016 00:34:48

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