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Treeheals said:
scousy said:
Draco Burnz said:
Konota said:
Yet, they earn money. I call it a win.


Exactly


And brings in no updates.

Mxt only brings in 20% of revenue while membership brings in 80%. Mxt is not needed to survive.


You got a source or just making up numbers?

Jagex's financial statements are freely available for everyone to view on the Companies House website. > )
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31-Jan-2018 15:00:12

Blackwing

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Exit Wound said:
PrimaAntiqua said:
Jesus christ, STOP SELLING XP!!!

You make a speech that we now know to be complete bull about toning down the monetisation and focusing on cosmetics, and then you bring back second chance Tuesday, to sell XP, and then you take one of the really bad XP selling promotions and make it EVEN WORSE.

If anyone trusts you to actually stick to your word on not slaving this game to the wallets of your non-gaming investor overlords, they're a fool at this point. The greed that is putting wallets before the health of the game will kill it. Expect RS Mobile to just be known as 'another MTX mobile game'.

When the game dies well before its time, it will be YOUR fault, MTX team. Shame on you.


why do ppl like u continue to play this game instead of quitting? srsly wtf is the point of coming here every week just to flame. if ur that upset over this quit the damn game already lol

Why? Because the base game would be enjoyable, if not for the P2W MTX ruining it. And considering the financial situation Jagex has, it'd be easy for them to remove TH and switch the MTX "team" to focus on Solomon's store instead.

Oh and another thing: on what basis do you determine who has quit the game and who still plays? > )
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31-Jan-2018 16:51:14

Blackwing

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Exit Wound said:
i dont understand how treasure hunter affects your base game experience? if u didnt acknowledge anything related to treasure hunter then nothing changes? let me guess...your bothered by the hiscores and gains ppl didnt work for? i hardly hop on rs3 anymore but when i do treasure hunter doesnt change anything for me except maybe some fast lvling... i can still enjoy it without noticing treasure hunter

TH affects the game quite significantly more than that:

1. It kills the meaning from hiscores.

2. It dramatically bumps up the gp price of bonds (people who are filthy rich and can't be bothered to train certain skills, so they dump their money on bonds and redeem them for keys), which is especially bothersome for ironmen who want to sustain their membership with gp.

3. It increases the supply of various materials (ores, bars, logs etc) and other items (food, arrows, runes etc) commonly received from TH as "junk" prizes, which in turn decreases the profitability of gathering/making those items via regular gameplay and then selling them.

4. On top of the above, when people buy exp with TH on buyable skills (herblore, smithing etc), they gain that exp without consuming existing resources (herbs, bars etc), which in turn decreases the demand for those resources, resulting in a further dive in profitability of gathering/making those items via regular gameplay and selling them to other players.

5. The more people who have access to moneymaking method X, the less profitable it becomes. Skill levels are pretty much always, either directly or in-directly, barring the entry to those methods, so being able to instantly buy the levels required affects how many people have the access (plus the efficiency).

Those are just some of the effects, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that in an MMO, other people's actions do affect you, one way or another; otherwise it wouldn't be an MMO!

> )
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31-Jan-2018 18:39:50

Blackwing

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Exit Wound said:
on what basis you say... well.. when someone comes on the forums to only post negative shit towards jagex and you take a look at there post history n it only involves bashing and flaming things you hate about the game...1 might say you dont really enjoy this game anymore and for that fact maybe u should quit? i know if a game made me bitch and complain every week i probably wouldnt be playing it anymore

I don't think you quite understood what I asked, so I'll ask again in a different manner: earlier you talked to Prima assuming as if he still plays the game. What makes you think he is still playing?
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31-Jan-2018 18:39:58

Blackwing

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Exit Wound said:
Blackwing said:
Exit Wound said:
on what basis you say... well.. when someone comes on the forums to only post negative shit towards jagex and you take a look at there post history n it only involves bashing and flaming things you hate about the game...1 might say you dont really enjoy this game anymore and for that fact maybe u should quit? i know if a game made me bitch and complain every week i probably wouldnt be playing it anymore

I don't think you quite understood what I asked, so I'll ask again in a different manner: earlier you talked to Prima assuming as if he still plays the game. What makes you think he is still playing?


you saying hes a gold premier member just to donate his money yearly to jagex while refusing to play n only comes on the forums to flame? seems legit

So you determine that based on their membership badge, I see. I assumed so but wanted to be sure first.

That brings me to the reason why I asked the question, pointing out the flaws in your logic: in general, if you see a member complaining like this, you can't really know whether they still actively pay & play the game, or if they have indeed quit until/if the issue which caused them to quit is fixed but they happen to have leftover membership which they can't refund. In Prima's case, the 2017 premier club was purchasable until 5th of February, 2017. Without Prima specifically confirming one way or another, because of the fact that you could buy premier club as late as that date, and the given present day, and the fact that Prima's membership streak is older than March 2017, it's still possible that Prima's premier membership is the old one and not the 2018 one.

In short: the membership badge showing that the person is a member, is no guarantee that the player is still actively paying & playing. > )
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31-Jan-2018 19:05:02

Blackwing

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Exit Wound said:
1. it doesnt kill meaning from hiscores..if you believe that thats your personal problem. if i work 10+ hours a day and have kids and a wife....do the teenagers who play this game 10+ hours a day kill the meaning to hiscores for me? no. do the power skillers who care more about xp/hr over gp/hr kill the meaning of hiscores to me because id rather do a slower method but make mad bread? no.

Indeed not, because you know, they actually play the game instead of paying to have it played for them! > ) Not sure if you're even being serious here, since it should be blatantly obvious.


Exit Wound said:
2. i wouldnt say its "dramatic". bonds are still under 20m . ironmen who would rather skill then drop ten bucks on members should be happy we even have a method in the game to sustain their membership

You just have to be apologetic to Jagex in one way or another, eh? Just think once before you speak, please. I told you how TH affects other people, and here you are trying to diminish its significance instead.


Exit Wound said:
3. i dont know what crazy materials u've won on TH but anytime i won ores bars logs etc it has always been less then 200 of them. that really isnt anything and not enough to impact the market. skilling has always been obsolete to making serious money compared to PvM

You're not thinking on a general perspective here; the amounts might seem small to an individual, but when tons of people dump their junk prizes, it all adds up.


Exit Wound said:
4. again, skilling is obsolete compared to pvm if your trying to make money

Skilling has some methods that are viable, but even then, if skilling would be obsolete, then the right course of action would be to make it viable again, not doom it further.
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31-Jan-2018 20:38:12 - Last edited on 31-Jan-2018 20:39:18 by Blackwing

Blackwing

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Exit Wound said:
5. unless u have the raw statistics on how ppl buy keys or what promos they choose to spend there irl money on we cant really speculate on what its doing to the market as a whole

I'm honestly starting to realize that you're just trolling me at this point, because it's painfully obvious that Jagex is focusing so much on exp promotions, because they sell the most out of TH promos (while cosmetic MTX in Solomon's could sell more). Not bothering to waste time with you anymore, bye. > )
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31-Jan-2018 20:41:53

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