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Blackwing said:
So... it's 9th consecutive patch week then? Surely there's more than patches after all this waiting?


REEEE get a life and stop complaining on EVERY DAMN UPDATE!!!
Literally no life that you are always able to post as first person on these threads...

09-Sep-2019 10:46:43

Luckyluke91

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Luckyluke91 said:
Blackwing said:
So... it's 9th consecutive patch week then? Surely there's more than patches after all this waiting?


REEEE get a life and stop complaining on EVERY DAMN UPDATE!!!
Literally no life that you are always able to post as first person on these threads...


EDIT: Ty for patches Jagex

09-Sep-2019 10:47:30

Luckyluke91

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Lord Drakan said:
Luckyluke91 said:
Blackwing said:
So... it's 9th consecutive patch week then? Surely there's more than patches after all this waiting?


REEEE get a life and stop complaining on EVERY DAMN UPDATE!!!
Literally no life that you are always able to post as first person on these threads...

He'd stop complaining if there were an actual update. :P I'm fine with an occasional no-update week myself, but nine consecutive ones is just mental. I could only advise to return to whatever the business strategy was in 2008 as quickly as possible, because it worked really well.

Solid list of patches, though, thanks. Though I'm still waiting to see some game-breaking bugs fixed. And have been for several years now...


Im afraid this is incorrect Drakan... he has been complaining on first post after EVERY update for the past year or so. I wish you luck to find it back ;). I'd like to see more quests etc. too but there is absolutely no need to complain or rant on fixes.

09-Sep-2019 11:13:38

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Solivagus said:
Thank Guthix it's a patch week. I was worried there might be new content being added to this MMORPG.

Friendly reminder to my fellow forum users that there have been 2 major bosses since January 2017.


The game does not mean bosses only my dude. And from what I can count its more than 2.

- Angel of Death (January 2017)
- Magister (July 2017)
- Solak (May 2018)
- Sanctum Guardian (June 2018)
- Mas*ta the Ascended (June 2018)
- Seiryu the Azure serpent (June 2018)
- Astellarn (August 2018)
- Verak Lith (August 2018)
- Black Stone Dragon (August 2018)
- Crassian Leviathan (February 2019)
- Tarake* the Necromancer (February 2019)
- Ambassador (February 2019)

From what I can see that's 12, I recommend you to go back to school to learn counting again ;)

And like I said there is way more to do than bossing only. Clue scrolls, skilling, minigames, quests,they all deserve equal love and treatment, so occassionally those need updates aswell, just like PVM. For the record 12 bosses in 2 years time, while not even 12 quests ;)

09-Sep-2019 11:24:24 - Last edited on 09-Sep-2019 11:24:54 by Luckyluke91

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Solivagus said:
Luckyluke91 said:
Lord Drakan said:
Luckyluke91 said:
Blackwing said:
So... it's 9th consecutive patch week then? Surely there's more than patches after all this waiting?


REEEE get a life and stop complaining on EVERY DAMN UPDATE!!!
Literally no life that you are always able to post as first person on these threads...

He'd stop complaining if there were an actual update. :P I'm fine with an occasional no-update week myself, but nine consecutive ones is just mental. I could only advise to return to whatever the business strategy was in 2008 as quickly as possible, because it worked really well.

Solid list of patches, though, thanks. Though I'm still waiting to see some game-breaking bugs fixed. And have been for several years now...


Im afraid this is incorrect Drakan... he has been complaining on first post after EVERY update for the past year or so. I wish you luck to find it back ;). I'd like to see more quests etc. too but there is absolutely no need to complain or rant on fixes.



friend, he gives credit when he thinks it's due. i have seen blackwing give his seal of approval to a week's updates a few times. and i mean, let's keep it real, when was the last really good week for updates? it has been a very, very disappointing year. we got ED3 and an agility course this year, man.


I like every single week... BGH is huge! first skilling boss for RS3 :D

09-Sep-2019 11:27:54

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Solivagus said:
Lord Drakan said:
Solivagus said:
Lord Drakan said:
Solivagus said:
Thank Guthix it's a patch week. I was worried there might be new content being added to this MMORPG.

Friendly reminder to my fellow forum users that there have been 2 major bosses since January 2017.

Many more actually, since elite dungeons contained quite a few. We've been getting so many bosses and Slayer monsters, it's ridiculous. I want quests and minigames dammit. :(



I said major bosses. Do you really consider QBD V2 and the two dps dummies major bosses? I am totally with you on them releasing way way way too many slayer mobs though.

I guess it depends on one's stats and equipment what constitutes a 'major' boss. Kranon and Seiryu are quite difficult at least, and to be fair so is Mas*ta. The others are more doable (but still no walk in the park). Assuming level 75/80 gear and level 90+ combat stats, that is.


yeah, to almost anyone with maxed stats and gear seiryu (QBD V2) black stone dragon (dps dummy 1) and ambassador (dps dummy 2) are not even remotely challenging. the other bosses are just a joke. i think it would be nice to see another solak tier boss, but harder. a huge chunk of the player base is sitting at an endgame with nothing to do.


Are you Insane Final Boss yet with all Boss titles? If no, you have something to do... 95% of the player base is not waiting for something 'harder than Solak'. There is a huge gap in the midgame - hence why Elite Dungeons were added. And they were nice to give you the solo option, which is, not gonna lie, pretty challenging on ED3.

09-Sep-2019 11:30:57

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Solivagus said:
Luckyluke91 said:
Solivagus said:
Thank Guthix it's a patch week. I was worried there might be new content being added to this MMORPG.

Friendly reminder to my fellow forum users that there have been 2 major bosses since January 2017.


The game does not mean bosses only my dude. And from what I can count its more than 2.

- Angel of Death (January 2017)
- Magister (July 2017)
- Solak (May 2018)
- Sanctum Guardian (June 2018)
- Mas*ta the Ascended (June 2018)
- Seiryu the Azure serpent (June 2018)
- Astellarn (August 2018)
- Verak Lith (August 2018)
- Black Stone Dragon (August 2018)
- Crassian Leviathan (February 2019)
- Tarake* the Necromancer (February 2019)
- Ambassador (February 2019)

From what I can see that's 12, I recommend you to go back to school to learn counting again ;)

And like I said there is way more to do than bossing only. Clue scrolls, skilling, minigames, quests,they all deserve equal love and treatment, so occassionally those need updates aswell, just like PVM. For the record 12 bosses in 2 years time, while not even 12 quests ;)


yeah, there is 2 major bosses on that list. i sure hope you dont consider the magister a major boss, friend.


I consider every boss as a boss. And you should do that too... otherwise... Sliske's Endgame last grandmaster quest (december 2016)... so first 2 grandmaster quests to be released before 2 'major' bosses

Makes no sense, every update is good. Elite Dungeons is the most fun I've done PVM wise in a long time. I'm an allround player and want to see less PVM updates and more other stuff like the construction rework, minigame revamps and more clue scroll updates. PVM had enough updates already, and until you are IFB + all boss titles (including graverobber) you are not done with PVM, simple.

09-Sep-2019 11:35:04

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Solivagus said:
@Luckyluke91

I have killed all the bosses enough times to be bored with them. not everyone wants to kill the same boss 5000 times while waiting for the new boss. my account is 15 years old , I have the comp/ master quest cape and 23000 runescore man, i have played a lot of the game's content and i know im not the only one who wants some new challenging content.


Trim+MQC+Almost all RuneScore here+Nearly Graverobber... Still not bored of anything.
Maybe you are bored because the only thing you do is PVM... try some clues? Runecrafting abyss (9m gp/h!)? Anything basically...

And as for your argument about max players, yes correct... so that proves my point we need a skilling update (new skill) and not a new boss.

My clan has quite a few max people (even 3b xp+ people) that do never PVM, just because they do not enjoy it... so claiming that every maxed player is sitting there being bored nothing to do is just incorrect. I want to remind you that only 5% of the whole community is actively doing Telos for example. 5% that likes the hard pvm, vs 95% that likes other things. I am part of the 95%, but I like PVM (just not Telos/AoD/Solak...). You sound super elitist by excluding people that do not like high-end pvm.

09-Sep-2019 11:56:51

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Solivagus said:
@Luckyluke91
so im an elitist because i like challenging content and would like something that isnt a dps dummy masquerading as a boss? the content im asking for would be open to anyone to try.

we have had ~170 weeks that didn't include high level pvm in the last 3.5 years. you know, maybe its time to give something to that 5%.

and yeah man, ive done 4k clues since i started playing, im tired of puzzle boxes and 150k rewards.

"And as for your argument about max players, yes correct... so that proves my point we need a skilling update (new skill) and not a new boss."
my mind is melting at that response. yes lets give more skilling updates to the 5.4b players man they need their xp gains.


170 weeks? You call AOD and Solak not high end aswell now??? yes you sound elitist, and maybe not only sound... maybe you are a elitist...

We got more boss updates than anything else, just because YOU think they are not challenging enough is not OUR problem. We need more quests / more clue updates etc. etc. etc.

Clue received that big overhaul in february 2018, yet the whole clue community has unlocked everything the store has to offer. Using your logic we would need to say: clue needs a new update. Sorry, but thats not how it works dude.

Mining&Smithing took a long time to develop and look how good it is! Jagex doesnt have unlimited resources and people to only put on PVM. The fact that we got 12 bosses in 2.5 years, many pvm'ers are happy. Just because they are not challenging enough to YOU, doesnt men it isnt challenging to the rest.

If Solak isnt challenging and enjoying you anymore... I might have bad news for you... then maybe RS just isnt your game... Jagex is doing an absolute splendid job by filling the gap for med level players with stuff like menaphos (had magister for high players), Elite Dungs (had solo for high players) and way more stuff!

09-Sep-2019 13:20:21

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This Kitten said:
Blackwing said:
So... it's 9th consecutive patch week then? Surely there's more than patches after all this waiting?


Your feedback literally means nothing lol. I'd rather have them fix the game rather than adding "new" content every week. Every new update comes out, something gets broken. I don't want to have new content come out and have everything else broken. For example, last week's update was the mobile interface overhaul. As it also affected desktop, there was a lot of unnecessary buffs/bugs that really needed to be fixed and it sometimes can't be simply fixed within one day.

I even looked at your stats on Runeclan and i see you're a player who hasn't even gained a single xp in over 2 years. Maybe stop complaining about wanting brand new content that you will consider "dead" content within 1 day and stop playing the game altogether. Your feedback isn't productive for Jagex to even look at. If you really want to give actual feedback, go on their social media or even be productive on here instead of complaining about patches.


This is true, he is OSRS player complaining on RS3 forums.

10-Sep-2019 08:50:31

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@solivagus

You say give us something.... Aod + Solak is 2 updates... I who likes clues a lot... got 1 update. More balance is required, 1 pvm update = 1 clue update = 1 quest update = 1 skill update thats how it should be.

I do not agree that everything is about PVM. Chopping Logs? Somebody buys them for firemaking/fletching. Runecrafting? Somebody is doing high alchemy merchs. Fishing? Somebody buys them for cooking. Mining and smithing? Somebody buys bars for burial armour. Etc. Etc. for everything you said its pvm related I can counter it that its NOT ONLY pvm related.

Nobody is enjoying Anachronia? Me and my friends are and many others are? A few actually started playing again to see the first RS3 skilling boss. The agility course is also really good, you can get competitive over something that isn't PVM for once finally.

All the top streamers are PVM'ers? Weird I watch some top streamers that are casual players and do skilling/clues a lot (and also PVM, allround players).

And yes I still enjoy the Magister. Saying that its a 40 second DPS dummy is very elitist. That might be your record. Not everyone has the gear that you have to make it 40 seconds. Quick calcs 40 sec 200k hp = 300k DPM. I bet you are one of those dudes that say: you need 900k gems to join my team. I got news for you, most of the community is under 750k gems and they are enjoying a 90 second Magister fight!

Menaphos has some of the best content released in a few years. Acadia's very nice woodcutting, Fishing was good till DSF was released, Soul runecrafting still best xp/h, and the slayer dungeon has some of the best money makers in game (big key drops, spark drops and salawa are one of the best elite clue droppers in the game).

10-Sep-2019 09:07:00 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2019 09:54:25 by Luckyluke91

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@solivagus

What if I only have full subjugation and a chaotic staff? Dont judge a book by its covers.
250k dpm with 25% increase is still 200k dpm without the 25%... which equals a 1m 5 minute gem... Im 100% sure now... elitist you are. As a comparison I have 780k gems and I can manage absolutely fine... if you want to murder magister that quick to not enjoy the fight, its fine... but dont expect everyone to be able to do the same as you do with your 1m gems.

And yes... I have the mole title, enjoyed it too! KBD I do not enjoy that much, but Barrows is love and life! I enjoy every kind of PVM, the low and the high ones... but I am usually excluded from teams by people like you ("omg no 800k gem, you're not welcome!)

Another example: I really like Rise of the Six, but do not expect 30 kills per hour trips with me... 20 is max and fine! My motto is: it doesn't matter how you kill it, it matters that you kill it. My first Araxxi ever was 17 minutes and 21 seconds and I was proud as *peep*. It matters that I achieved something ('The famous' back then for comp cape).

If you can prove me wrong about you being elitist, please do... until then... yes I disagree with you no matter what you say... I hate elitism!

11-Sep-2019 10:01:22 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2019 10:02:24 by Luckyluke91

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Griphook said:
Solivagus said:
Untrimslay said:
IMO the issue isn't the lack of content, but the quality and how Jagex aims to actually rebuild the community feel to the game.

Minigames are just a no-no in current vein. The existing ones are all dead content, any time they've tried to reinvigorate them they just fail, and within weeks most worlds are empty. Just look at Shattered Worlds.

They need to stop focusing on the PvM and work on bringing gear to mini-games, or creating gear that you can't trade but have decent stats either way. Ports was a good idea, but obviously is exclusive to you. Even if they just created a mini game that offered 'kits' to upgrade various things, that would be fine.



so minigames die immediately and you want them to focus on minigames by shoehorning gear into them to force people to play content that would otherwise be dead? also, what gear are you talking about? we have tank and dps gear available for extremely cheap at any tier below 92, which the exception of maybe tectonic which might be a bit pricey for some people.

Forcing people to play content that would otherwise be dead is literally Jagex's entire job. Would anyone do PvM if the drops sucked? People go where the money is, and where the gear is, so making minigame rewards more lucrative is a great idea that might actually revitalise them. And personally, minigames are a hell of a lot more fun to play than PvM bosses. They're also more nuanced than just pure combat, requiring an understanding of unique mechanics and strategy to leverage them, more so than simply spamming the right abilities at the right time.


Well said friend, well said!

I can still remember the cry about stone spirits! They nerfed your gp/h and all the PVM community did was cry to remove them!

#KEEPSTONESPIRITSALIFE they are a good drop actually! And if you're lucky enough to not roll them, good!

11-Sep-2019 10:04:49

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MrsGuinevere said:
NOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOORE BOSSESSSSSSSS

YOU WANT TO KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL AND WANT IT DIFFICULT - THEN FIND A GAME THAT
ONLY
FOCUSES ON KILLING.

As another player this week mentioned ONLY A SELECT few of you like Bossing! (a lot of us don't care to boss nor do we have the abilities to successfully kill a boss. Not everyone can multi task and handle the mechanics of some of these bosses)

STOP FORCING bossing onto the REST of the rs community.

Bossing is NOT how rs started, nor does it need to be over powered with them.

NOOOOOOOOOO MORE BOSSES.

Go find a killing ONLY game.


Also very well said. However I would not mind some more Elite Dungeon like bosses or GWD2 like bosses. Stuff that basically everyone can do (even with low gear)

I found some numbers that 20% of the RS community is PVM community. 5% of that community is doing Telos (so 1% of all community). And 1% of the Telos community is having warden (so 0.01% of everyone). Do we need more hard Telos or Solak like bosses then? I don't think so!

Anachronia has room for a nice Elite Dungeon themed around dinosaurs, probably in the mountain northwest of the base camp :D !

11-Sep-2019 10:07:42

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Solivagus said:
@Luckyluke91

If you can prove me wrong about you being elitist, please do... until then... yes I disagree with you no matter what you say... I hate elitism!


so what im getting here is that you are working backwards from your conclusion and purposely being a contrarian because you have prejudged me to be an elitist based on the fact that i like high level pvm. That's really pathetic, man. you should save this conversation we had in notepad or something and read it back to yourself in a few years.

but I am usually excluded from teams by people like you ("omg no 800k gem, you're not welcome!)


people don't want you on their AOD team because your refusal to play at a high level is going to sabotage the team. for example, if you did duo solak with someone, your lack of dps would get them killed on lockdown every single attempt and your refusal to improve would mean you never get past the first dps check. I don't know, man, maybe if you didn't treat personal improvement as a negative you wouldn't get excluded so much.


Typical that you are not replying on the calculations I did... You know that 1m gems are ridiculously high right? 780k (what I have) is already above average. And no Im not refusing to play high level pvm, Im refusing to put big sweat drops on my head which makes it less enjoyable. Even if I get a high drop from Solak/AOD its not giving me a 'dopamine rush' because of the energy it cost me to do the boss... Im tired after an hour an need to lay down.

You and your elite friends are the reason people like me are not enjoying AOD/Solak. If we would be allow to do casual kills, we might enjoy the content.

Griphook already was spot on in his comment, so Im not gonna repeat it. I hope you are seeing that its you vs 10 others at the moment on this thread. which means its 1:10 people who like high end pvm : who do not like high end pvm.

Good Luck w/life

11-Sep-2019 22:22:38

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Solivagus said:
MrsGuinevere said:
As you said, you kill the bosses, once mastered you are bored. NOT everyone has the co ordination to boss (& never will), you do understand that right?

oh, cranking the snark up. The comp rework ensured that players with severe mental deficiencies can now have a completionist cape so i am not sure why you think this is a valid critisism of the idea that more than 2% of updates should be high level pvm. if you dont like high level pvm you dont have to play it. you dont even have to buy a leech from me to keep your comp cape so what are you getting at here?



The comp rework ensured that players with severe mental deficiencies can now have a completionist cape


WOW just WOW: are you really labeling the RS COMMUNITY with "Mental issues", because they can not or will not boss? I think this comment says it all about you. This is the rudest and most ridiculous comment I've ever read on the forums! I think were done here.



you're purposely misinterpreting what i said. also i am actually referring to a few specific individuals with literal brain damage who couldn't kill high level bosses that i spoke to in the comp rework thread. but maybe mentally handicapped might have been a better term? but you would have said the same thing either way, so whatever.


Not gonna lie, but the comp cape rework was just her FOR PVM'ers who were to lazy to comp, but still wanted BIS. So they got Kiln cape now.

I have 50+ kc on every boss (yes, including Solak) and a trim comp cape (yes, including castle wars). So I did way more content than you. You have tunnel vision on PVM, broaden your sight and help people with lower gem damages to do the high-end pvm.

I would actually enjoy it if not every damn team I am in would say: where is your flanking switch? It's just elitism optima forma.

PS: RC is 9m/h skilling

12-Sep-2019 20:38:27

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