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Special thanks to Sugarstiamat and Inco for running the fc in my absence. I give permission to Sugarstiamat to create v5 when this maxes and ownership thereon.

Welcome to our fourth version of the thread! This thread shares information with our friend's chat known as "
vis wax fc
".


If the combination isn't updated on time on this post, please check the second post or at the end of the thread*


***** Combinations will be on the second/third post or at the end of the thread! *****


Alts are listed in order of cost-efficiency! Lost wax is included.

* = only use if ironman


If you're new here then I highly recommend you check out Vivy's beginner vis wax guide! Click me


* How to read the fc title
The fc title represents the first and second slot runes, since the third slot is random.
Slot 1 = First rune in the fc title
Slot 2 = One of the 2nd, 3rd or 4th abbreviations in the title will be your correct 2nd slot
Slot 3 = Random, therefore not represented in the title

* Abbreviations and the # of runes used are in the third post below

* Which runes to use/avoid are in the fourth post below

Due to real life priorities and issues with reset being fairly late in my time zone, I can't promise that this first post will always be updated in time. Please look carefully at the DATE, if the title isn't updated then look at the post below mine or check at the end of the thread.

Have fun waxing! (Couldn't resist the pun)
Umbrielle/15.
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12-Mar-2016 00:46:59 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2017 00:45:03 by 15

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Combination for day the 17th;


Slot 1:


- Body(chaos 29)

Slot 2:


- Cosmic(water 26,mind 21)
- Fire(mind 23)
- Steam(earth 25,chaos 28)

Slot 3:

- Is
R
A
N
D
O
M


Alternative runes are listed in order of value.(Based on G.E value).


* (
Use only for Hardcore Ironman and Ironman accounts.It's not the best rune.For normal players.
)

Please don't post on this thread unless it has to do with today's combination.
Come join "The Nut House"

12-Mar-2016 00:47:24 - Last edited on 17-Nov-2017 00:10:49 by SugarsTiamat

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Non-player characters (NPC's) from which to buy runes
Void Knight Magic Store in Void Knights' Outpost (no requirements to buy runes)
Aubury's rune shop in southeast Varrock (no requirements to buy runes)
Apprentice Clara northeast of Burthorpe lodestone (no requirements to buy runes)
Betty's emporium in Port Sarim (no requirements to buy runes)

Magic guild store, first floor of the Magic guild in Yanille (need level 66 Magic)
Baba Yaga's Magic Shop in Lunar Isle (need quest, Lunar Diplomacy)
Tutab's Magical Market in Ape Atoll (need quest, Monkey Madness)
Ali Morrisane northeast of the silk trader and Faruq in Al-Kharid (need quest, The Feud; then also need miniquest, Rogue Trader)
Mage of Zamorak in the Southern Wilderness mining site (risk in travelling to there and during the purchasing of runes, due to pk'ers)
Lundail's Arena-side Rune Shop in Mage Arena (risk in travelling there, due to pk'ers; the area in which you purchase runes is a non-pk area)

12-Mar-2016 00:48:13 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2017 04:37:12 by Inco1902

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Abbreviations List:


Air - Airs
As - Astrals
Bl - Blood
Bo/Bod - Body
Co - Cosmics
C and h - Chaos
De - Death
Du - Dust
E - Earths
F - Fires
L and w - Laws
Lv - Lavas
Md/Min - Minds
Ms/Mst - Mists
Mu/Mud - Muds
N/Nat - Natures
So - Soul
Sm - Smoke
S and t - Steam
W - Water

Base number of runes used:


Mind/Body: 2000
Elementals(Air, Water, Earth and Fire): 1000
Combination(Dust, Smoke, Steam, Mist and Lava): 500
Chaos runes: 500
Death/Cosmic: 400
Blood/Nature: 350
Soul/Law/Astral/Mud: 300



- Each try will increase the rune cost by 0.5%.
- Double runes can happen, they'll be represented with the rune being mentioned twice in the fc title(meaning 2/3 chance of that rune being your second slot rune). They will of course have different alts.
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12-Mar-2016 00:48:28 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2016 01:30:27 by 15

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Cost of runes:
(Last updated March 13th 2017)


Recommended:
Earth 16.000
Water 18.000
Air 37.000
Mind 36.000
Chaos 42.500
Body 64.000
Death 69,200


Acceptable:
Law 91.500
Fire 114.000
Nature 123.900


Avoid:
Astral 140.700
Cosmic 151.200
Dust 176.500
Blood 187.600
Soul 192.900
Mud 213.000
Steam 311.000
Lava 374.000
Smoke 357.500
Mist 448.000
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12-Mar-2016 00:48:31 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2017 00:36:35 by 15

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Frequently asked questions(by Blasty):


How do you determine when runes are doubled?

When alternative rune calls conflict consistently, that suggests that a slot 2 rune is doubled.

How do you determine what's a good alt?

Step 1: Find the wax output. This is done by swapping runes with the best rune and checking the difference in wax output.
Step 2: Compare the difference in price of buying all runes in GE with the difference in value of wax output. Price checks should be done at GE with live ge prices but prices should not be posted in chat, only the alt and its output. Confirming/rejecting these calls will be done by members in the chat. (e.g. fire 29/30)

Examples:

Rune 1 may cost 50k and produce 30/30 wax.
Rune 2 may cost 70k and produce 22/30 wax.
Clearly, rune 2 is not a good alt.

Rune 1 may cost 110k and produce 30/30 wax.
Rune 2 may cost 22k and produce 29/30 wax.
Clearly, rune 2 is a good alt and the fc should be made aware.

Rune 1 may cost 50k and produce 30/30 wax.
Rune 2 may cost 43k and produce 29/30 wax.
Both runes are close to equal in profit so other factors may influence choice such as whether or not people have the runes already or how easy it is to obtain in ironman, therefore the alt may be called in the chat.

How do I use the fc as an ironman?

The fc accomodates for ironmen by keeping track of alts that are easier to obtain for ironmen than other runes such as elemental runes over combination runes. Most fc users are not ironmen so on days when runes are unfavourable to ironmen, you may have to check the thread or ask in the chat for ironmen alternatives.
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12-Mar-2016 00:48:34 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2016 01:31:16 by 15

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Noob King's guide to the mysterious slot 3


1. Start out by using elemental runes and mind / chaos, theese are the cheapest runes and will be the most profit per wax, if the wax is really low with theese you can continue trying other runes. (Refer to post 5 for prices of runes)

2. Try the runes you have in slot 1 and 2 just to see if that might be it and if you would be better off with a different alt for thoose slots.

3. If you at this point still havent found a "Good" rune try using death / Cosmic / Nature / Law / Astral.

Now if you are confused which ones is the best to use still then this is the way to calculate it:

Amount of wax * price of wax (*6,000) - Cost of runes
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12-Mar-2016 00:48:38 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 20:04:08 by 15

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Lorijn made a quick guide for a run through magic shops in Gielinor :


There are 6 runes shops with 1K elemental stocks. These are :

1 -Wizard guild shop at Yanille, first floor of the Wizard's guild.
2 - Void Knight Magic Store in Void Knights' Outpost.
3 - Baba Yaga's Magic Shop on Lunar Isle.
4 - Tutab's Magical Market in Ape Atoll.
5 - Mage of Zamorak in the Southern Wilderness mining site.
6 - Lundail's Arena-side Rune Shop in Mage Arena.

The 3 easiest shops to find are the first on the list. Wizard guild is easy to get to if your house is located in Yanille, alternatively use Yanille lodestone. Use port Sarim lodestone for the void knight's outpost shop and lunar lodestone which is unlocked after the lunar diplomacy quest to get to Baba Yaga's shop.
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12-Mar-2016 00:48:41 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 20:12:54 by 15

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Vivy's Beginner's Guide To Vix (Vis Wax)
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Doing your vix daily at the "Rune" Goldberg machine is worthwhile because it's about 500k net ezpz profit per daily reset, since vix is 6.9k each and you can receive up to 100 per day. The Rune Goldberg machine is found in the Runecrafting guild.

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Items Needed
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You'll need at least 2000 each of the 'budget' rune that 15 listed in post 5, which can be either in your bank or in your inventory.

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How To Get To The Rune Golderberg Machine
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Right click "Teleport" on a Wicked Hood, enter the Runecrafting guild portal up the stairs, and the machine is two grey tanks to the east.

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How To Obtain A *FREE* Wicked Hood* -- You Are This Thread's 1000th Visitor!!
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Talk to Tam McGrubor, who's slightly east of the Burthorpe lodestone. He's right outside the rune essence icon on the minimap and past the agility icon.

You can also purchase runes from Apprentice Clara inside the Rune Essence store that Tam's just south of, as part of your rune run.

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How To Use This Thread
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Each day, slots 1 and 2 will have the same possible combos for everyone. Slot 3 will be completely random per person, so you guess and check that on your own, within whatever runes you're willing to use.

Sometimes slot 2 has multiple runes listed. Your "best fit" will be one of the 3 or so options, so through trial and error figure out which one gives you a green smiley face.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN *MAXIMUM PROFIT*
, go by the alts that are listed next to your best fit. If there are no alts listed, then the primary rune is a budget rune that confers the most profit /and/ gives the most vix for that slot.
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12-Mar-2016 00:48:44 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 20:47:45 by 15

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