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Sir Mikkel
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Sir Mikkel

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As everyone already said, a video that breaks the rules should not even be considered to be in the gallery. No one can even have an opinion about this. It clearly goes over the time limit with 8 seconds and completely ignores the rules. And as Andrew Co7 said, it would be very unfair to the rest of us if he got in top 5. I would have loved that extra time for my entry...
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25-Jul-2014 11:28:40

Mod Jd

Mod Jd

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The offending video has been removed from the gallery.

However, I have contacted the videomaker, and if they re-submit the video to me which does abide by the rules by Sunday, I will re-upload it to the gallery. I believe that's a fair compromise, because by the looks of things a lot of time and effort went into it, and it deserves to be seen.


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25-Jul-2014 11:56:06

[#T577YPQO8]

[#T577YPQO8]

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From Mod-JD:

Mod Jd said:

However, I have contacted the videomaker, and if they re-submit the video to me which does abide by the rules by Sunday, I will re-upload it to the gallery. I believe that's a fair compromise, because by the looks of things a lot of time and effort went into it, and it deserves to be seen.


Am I really reading this? Not only is the organzier changing the rules during the contest, but they feel because a lot of time and effort went into it, it deserves to be seen? If that is not "pre-judging" and clear bias, I don't know what is! What about all the other video's which were removed or rejected? Do they all get the same treatment? What about the votes already cast, which were based on views of the original footage in it's entirety? How can this be fair? There is no logical reason to condone rule-breaking and giving a second chance because you feel the video deserves it.

Your own T&C's:

>The opening and closing dates and times for entries are as indicated in the
> Competition information. Any entries received before or after the opening or
> closing of a Competition will not be considered unless otherwise stated.

So this rule means nothing as you feel free to ignore the closing time and allow an entrant to change their submission

>illegible, incomplete, defaced or corrupt entries will not be accepted

But I guess it's okay to allow a rule-breaker chance to re-edit their entry?

I believe every single person that entered the competition would argue they put a lot of time and effort into their videos, but they followed the rules: Even if this compromised the content they submitted. So why is this person getting special attention? The prize here is worth a lot of money, and there should be no bias or significant changing of the rules to be fair to all.

25-Jul-2014 13:23:22

Mod Jd

Mod Jd

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[#T577YPQO8] said:
From Mod-JD:

Mod Jd said:

However, I have contacted the videomaker, and if they re-submit the video to me which does abide by the rules by Sunday, I will re-upload it to the gallery. I believe that's a fair compromise, because by the looks of things a lot of time and effort went into it, and it deserves to be seen.


Am I really reading this? Not only is the organzier changing the rules during the contest, but they feel because a lot of time and effort went into it, it deserves to be seen? If that is not "pre-judging" and clear bias, I don't know what is! What about all the other video's which were removed or rejected? Do they all get the same treatment? What about the votes already cast, which were based on views of the original footage in it's entirety? How can this be fair? There is no logical reason to condone rule-breaking and giving a second chance because you feel the video deserves it.

Your own T&C's:

>The opening and closing dates and times for entries are as indicated in the
> Competition information. Any entries received before or after the opening or
> closing of a Competition will not be considered unless otherwise stated.

So this rule means nothing as you feel free to ignore the closing time and allow an entrant to change their submission

>illegible, incomplete, defaced or corrupt entries will not be accepted

But I guess it's okay to allow a rule-breaker chance to re-edit their entry?

I believe every single person that entered the competition would argue they put a lot of time and effort into their videos, but they followed the rules: Even if this compromised the content they submitted. So why is this person getting special attention? The prize here is worth a lot of money, and there should be no bias or significant changing of the rules to be fair to all.


I agree with you Kokkor - everyone has put a lot of time and effort into their entries.

The votes already cast on that video are nullified, sorry if I didn't make that clear.

There is no pre-judging here (I myself am not a video afficionado, or eligible to be making comment on the quality of a video), and I will not be judging the videos.

I just think that, bearing in mind what the terms are which caused the video to be breaking the rules (i.e. blank spaces and credits) that there needs to be an element of leniency. There, of course, is a penalty (i.e. that they miss at least 5 days' worth of voting potential), but in my mind this is a fair outcome and that's my final word on the matter.


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25-Jul-2014 17:10:50

[#T577YPQO8]

[#T577YPQO8]

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Mod Jd said:

I just think that, bearing in mind what the terms are which caused the video to be breaking the rules (i.e. blank spaces and credits) that there needs to be an element of leniency. There, of course, is a penalty (i.*. that they miss at least 5 days' worth of voting potential), but in my mind this is a fair outcome and that's my final word on the matter.


Okay. Thanks for taking the time to listen to all of our opinions on this sensitive issue!

25-Jul-2014 17:34:18

MoonSparkles

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Oh dear! What a mess this has been but glad it is sorted.

I have a question.

When the competition ends and the voting closes, will the gallery remain open and the votes be viewable for us to see? This way we can see for ourselves who made the top 5 and by how many votes? and to see how many votes each video got?

Thanks :)

25-Jul-2014 18:03:33

Osborne1992

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Quite the mess indeed...

And also going back to my own questions,

Will there be categories as before?
Will ALL submissions be looked at for these categories?
Is this top 5 thing just to pick the "Best over all" video, or are they going to be used for the categories, ignoring other entries?

25-Jul-2014 18:10:23

the Quackers

the Quackers

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Mod Jd said:
The offending video has been removed from the gallery.

However, I have contacted the videomaker, and if they re-submit the video to me which does abide by the rules by Sunday, I will re-upload it to the gallery. I believe that's a fair compromise, because by the looks of things a lot of time and effort went into it, and it deserves to be seen**


poor choice, but whatever. I only see 2 complaints, it'd be different if the WHOLE of the community complained. EDIT: Ty for wasting all the time everyone put into the video over a couple seconds of credits.
-Libra :: Social, Skilling, PvM-

26-Jul-2014 01:22:17 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2014 01:27:33 by the Quackers

ClarityHeart
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ClarityHeart

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the Quackers said:
Mod Jd said:
The offending video has been removed from the gallery.

However, I have contacted the videomaker, and if they re-submit the video to me which does abide by the rules by Sunday, I will re-upload it to the gallery. I believe that's a fair compromise, because by the looks of things a lot of time and effort went into it, and it deserves to be seen**


poor choice, but whatever. I only see 2 complaints, it'd be different if the WHOLE of the community complained. EDIT: Ty for wasting all the time everyone put into the video over a couple seconds of credits.
-Libra :: Social, Skilling, PvM-


i agree with Kufr this is really bull just for a couple of seconds, Jarkur put alot of work into that video and he was showing thanks for everyone helping him make the video just for over a couple of seconds is bull

26-Jul-2014 01:38:19

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