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Mod William

Mod William

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Good afternoon, 'Scapers,

First of all, I'd like to apologise for going a bit quiet in the past month. You've had plenty to say about Menaphos, Achievements and a few other updates, and it might have seemed like we were tucking our heads in the sand or popping off to the pub.

In reality, we've been deep in discussion as a team. We've been so focused on Menaphos and the determination to get it ready that we have neglected the wider game, so we've been making a big change or two.

NOTE - We have a habit of announcing that we're going to make changes. This time, we wanted to talk to you about changes we have already made. Expect us to go into more detail on Tuesday's livestream, as well as regular video-and-newspost updates like this one. Let's put a date in the calendar: Friday, 28th July seems like a good time to check back in on what we're doing with another post.

For now, though, read on!



Expansions


While many of you have liked - even loved - Menaphos, it's fair to say that it's had its problems. Regardless of whether you felt it was complete, we underestimated how much of our focus it would take up, and we've neglected other updates as a result.

Expansions take up a huge amount of dev time, leading to a sparse release schedule and less player happiness. It's clear that regular updates is something that makes RuneScape RuneScape. The game feels less alive without them.

For this reason, we are suspending development on all future expansions. We might release expansion-sized updates like Elf City in the future, but we won't be committing to a sequence of them, and there will be no additional expansion this year.

I know that might sound dramatic, but hear us out and find out why we think this will benefit RuneScape.



Ninjas


You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who doesn't like Ninja updates. That particular fix you've been waiting for can often have a greater impact than a conventional update. But colossal projects like the Bank Rework have been blocking the team from strengthening weeks with these essential quality-of-life improvements.

That's a real, real shame. We miss those updates. So, three weeks ago, we made the decision to double the number of developers and testers on the Ninja Team.

Thanks to the additional developers and testers, we will be releasing Ninja fixes such as the following throughout July:

  • Quick Prayer Presets that allow you to define a bunch of different prayers and curses to be turned on via one action, stored as a right click option on the prayer button or action bar

  • An Aura Bag to manage and unlock loyalty auras

  • Barrows, Shadow, Third Age and Blood dyes for all Telos weaponry


That's a taste of the updates you can expect regularly, and we've got many more ready for August (and don't worry – the Bank Rework is still very much a thing). We're determined to keep the quality of Ninja fixes high, and we've got a plan for how we might do that.



Polls


We know that we've tried polls before but, while they're flawed, they work. It just feels right to be involved and, as such, polls are coming back in a big way.

The plan is that we poll as many of our updates, fixes or improvements as we can.



Unfinished Business


Okay, now for the big one. For the foreseeable future, the Eternals and Titans will be delivering the updates that have been promised in the past. They will be finishing updates that feel unfinished and improving the core of the game. Think area reworks rather than new areas, and continuations of old questlines rather than new ones.

Simply put, we want to pause for a moment and resolve the Unfinished Business in RuneScape.

A good example is Achievements. Let's not assume we're done with it: we want to fix it, and make it something that benefits the game for years. So, we are planning to bring in interface improvements based on your suggestions, including more achievements onscreen at one time and a Player Inspect feature.

Invention Batch 2 is another strong example. You know it's coming from a Dev Diary, but we're expanding its remit so that it not only adds to Invention, but attempts to fix it too. So, while you can expect devices, machines and benefits beyond level 10 for your augmented gear, you can also expect fixes. These will include the removal of Inspiration, making tradeable Augmentors, and a clearer idea of which Perks will come from which components.

We now reach a bit of a quandary. In an ideal world, we'd show you a list of all of the Unfinished Business updates, complete with their release dates. BUT that would only create more expectation, and add to 'Unfinished Business' rather than deduct from it.

Instead, we'd like to list 10 updates that we're actively working on or researching. There are no dates attached: just reassurance that we're looking at these right now, and that they'll be released only when they're ready and right for the game:

  • Bank Rework

  • Mining and Smithing

  • Clue Scroll Overhaul

  • Dailyscape reductions

  • Invention Batch 2

  • Achievement System finishing

  • Evil Dave Quest

  • Graphical Reworks, including Seers' Village and Witch's House

  • Combat Pets

  • Shattered World improvements, to make it more rewarding and varied


We're going to be giving you progress-reports on these. Expect the first on the 28th of July and regularly thereafter. We also want to get you involved in their priority, and whether other updates should replace them on the list.

With that in mind, it's time to mention...



The Big RuneScape Survey


On Tuesday, 11th July, at the same time as an Unfinished Business live stream, we will be launching The Big RuneScape Survey.

This will be an open, online survey that lists everything we consider good for the game and previously promised, announced or unfinished. We will then ask you to prioritise them. Is a bunch of graphical reworks more important than a Construction Rework? Tell us, and we will use the results to prioritise the Unfinished Business stuff that you want, and build a backlog of updates to work on.



I've rambled on enough for now, and we can catch up again on the 28th of July. Remember to tune into the live stream on the 11th July, when we will be answering your questions and releasing the Big RuneScape Survey.



On a personal note, I know these changes seem radical and reasonably rapid, but – having spent so much time reading your feedback – I'm convinced that it's the right direction. Now it's your turn to tell us whether you agree.

Thank you for being such a committed and passionate bunch of players. We're lucky to have you.

Mod Osborne & The RuneScape Team

07-Jul-2017 16:26:10 - Last edited on 07-Jul-2017 17:34:56 by Mod William

Lisaa
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Interesting, looking forward to it!

I am very curious though about something though. Clans and the clan software have been a bit of a hot topic for a while now, and while this post you made is directed at content that's been neglected, no mention of Clans has been made.

Will you be dedicating some time for clan improvements as part of this new strategy?
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07-Jul-2017 17:43:54 - Last edited on 07-Jul-2017 17:45:12 by Lisaa

Mod Matthe

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Lisaa said:
Interesting, looking forward to it!

I am very curious though about something though. Clans and the clan software have been a bit of a hot topic for a while now, and while this post you made is directed at content that's been neglected, no mention of Clans has been made.

Will you be dedicating some time for clan improvements as part of this new strategy?


For me, and for a whole bunch of you, clans are a real priority and we’ve made sure that “clan rework” is on that all important survey. I would really encourage you and your clannies to speak loudly about the importance of clans in your replies to the survey. That is the best way to fold clans into the new strategy.
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07-Jul-2017 17:49:04

Greedy noob
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Well done, this should benefit the game.

If I could give you an other tip; don't hype content up with weekly BTS like we saw with Menaphos, hype creates 9/10 time dissapointment.

Although I'd like to see the normal weekly BTS video return.

About the polls, this is best you can do, just take a look at OSRS, polls work.

Looking forward to the survey, might see some intresting stuff.
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07-Jul-2017 17:49:36

Dalia
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Well, I feel this could be good and bad. I'll elaborate-

I am missing weekly updates but I know the ONLY BLOODY WAY we will get a construction rework is through expansions.

Honestly it frustrates me how much potential Construction and player housing has. It's constricted by the mess of ancient spaghetti code and the only REAL way to make it great again is to start it from scratch.

I can see no use in trying to fix a old mess- it needs updates so it needs to be able to be coded efficiently in order to get updates.

That's why I suggested retro housing/ new housing back in the day as a way of making most players happy.

I regret getting 99 construction because I did hoping construction will get updates or a rework to really use the skill. I am not wallowing in a stew of loathing and anger or anything, just taking it as a lessoned learned: With Runescape you have to accept things as they are because working for a possible future update is not a realistic expectation.

Yes pestering the Ninjas for pet graphical updates or other quality of life improvements will be good, but honestly I think we need more developers for BIG projects too.

Because Runescape has BIG problems and only lots of time and development will fix them.

I hope Construction finally gets some attention, but knowing the player base they'll still ignore it. :|

-Dalia

07-Jul-2017 17:49:50 - Last edited on 07-Jul-2017 17:55:52 by Dalia

Lions RAWR
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I feel this is the right step in the right direction of the game.

May I ask though:

Are there still going to be " surprise" updates like Memorial to Guthix that we saw in the beginning of the year?

As the teams work on these updates listed, will we be still getting smaller updates that are not on the list ( besides QOL and fixes)?
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07-Jul-2017 17:52:35

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