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Dilbert2001

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Krystelle said:
There is a difference between you're being seduced into spending 62k and you choosing to spend 62k.


There is also a difference between you're seduced into buying $62k worth of stocks or you choose to buy them yourself.

However, you can't blame your stock broker when you lose money if they have shown you the risk and chance of making whatever % of return.

20-Sep-2019 01:46:07

Dilbert2001

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Jeremy†Cheng said:
Why do mtx whales who are millionaires irl never publicly admit that they spent 62k compared to this guy who wasn't a whale and actually needed the money for bills?


I believe the fact is nobody knows if this ADULT SON of the parent who talked to the UK DCMS was a whale or somebody in need of money for bills.

According to Jagex, he refused to prove his identity under the requirement of the GDPR.

20-Sep-2019 01:54:25

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Johan†Rayne said:

of course jagex can be questioned on their sincerity.


One can only show up in person IRL to question whatever entity their sincerity.

In the case of this thread, Jagex sincerely asked to see if they could help that gamer but he refused to show up under LAW. How can Jagex help?

20-Sep-2019 19:22:49 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2019 19:23:34 by Dilbert2001

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Burningwicky said:


well i can answer that easily!. because Jim Sterling made a video about it!, and he is 100% right!, runescape is a pay to pay game, or pay to free game, or whatever you wanna call it,
it manipulates the weak of brain and small kids to spend money!
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You picked absolutely the wrong example. The Runescaper who spent $62k is an ADULT SON of somebody, not a small kid.

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20-Sep-2019 19:40:39

Dilbert2001

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HazelmerePlz said:
This sounds like it was written by every Reddit user >.>

The mention of a nerf followed by an over-powered TH update?

Eh, let's be contextual. This man is a grown-up with access to this sort of funding. This is either his own money, or money that has been provided by a bank account based on his own credit score or funded by his parents. He spunked it, for what of a better term, on TH, and now Jagex has to take the fall? I rarely support the game, but are they really to blame here? No. This is just pure stupidity, greed, and excess.

It's no different to someone walking into a casino and placing £40k on black. But because this is progressive, they're at fault? No dice. If this happened in a world where we held the same morals and political correctness that we did 40 years ago, he'd have been laughed out the room and told to pull his boots up and make it back. Its time we stopped pandering to every stupid human beings mistakes. Off this remit, if my house falls by £40k from what i paid for it, then the estate agent should foot the difference, right?

Just complete and utter stupidity. Its not mental health, its greed and excess. Jagex are a BUSINESS, and if i were a business and someone offered me £40k for a service where the T&C's are clearly spelt out, i'd take it it any day - and i wouldnt expect a government from a country build on corrupt business ethics to tell me otherwise.


I have to add, Redditors most think this adult son bought Bonds and lost his money in "Sand Casino" aka Duel Arena because we agreed it would only take £10k to max a character and no more than £40k more to get the best gear. It could not be TH where he lost his money. TH is the wrong MTX to blame.

20-Sep-2019 19:45:19

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"EIther way, i think you'll agree that greed and excess can operate across the entire MTX spectrum here"


If a lot of Runescapers spent $62k in game, I'd say it is greed. However, if Bill Gates bought $62k worth of Big Macs we can't say McDonald's is greedy.

But so far, we haven't seen anybody else telling their stories on how much they spent in Runescape other than the person who spent $62k and another one self-proclaimed whale who spent only £500.

20-Sep-2019 19:58:08

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HazelmerePlz said:
Eww double post.

BUT, i just wanted to point out i am posting as a player that has easily spent £6-7k on MTX across the years, so please do not think i am being cynical of this player. Could i have afforded to spend that much? Eh, depends i guess. Yes, as it was money to spend, but as opportunity cost dictates, i could have spent that on something else.

Do i blame Jagex? Hell no. I like Runescape, and someones got to pay their wages.


Do you consider yourself a whale? And what do you think about the self-proclaimed whale who spent only £500 in Runescape?

I am just trying to get an idea how much do players think is "excessive spending" in a game.

20-Sep-2019 20:01:50 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2019 20:40:35 by Dilbert2001

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Baby†Balth said:
Dong†U†Dead said:
TinyThi3f said:
Fifi, realistically speaking the responsibility should be partially on all parties involved.

The person spending the 62k for not realising how much they were wasting, or when to walk away.
Jagex for allowing such a ludicrously high amount of income from 1 individual.
And finally the persons bank for not blocking such stupid transactions.

Yes both Jagex and whatever bank they use are both businesses but in extreme circumstances like this both have failed at protecting the consumer.

Which is why thereís been a backlash, and rightly so.

It's not Jagex job. I'm not sure how old the dude in question is, he managed to use his parents credit card quite easily, as someone said earlier in the thread, he took out up to 1K a week up too 62K in total - hell the hell does a parent not see this, that's more than enough for a deposit on a home. I feel there is something fishy here, like they wanted this attention. I believe he and his parents knew exactly what he was up too or his parents liked the piece and quiet and just left him too it.

It reminds of that article about the child addicted to Fortnite, who was up all night playing, wetting his pants ect. The parents new exactly what's happening, they refused to put passwords on, they got the piece and quite they wanted.

It's all bs, blaming the game, blaming Jagex. Become parents and look after your children, simple as that.


Actually it is Jagex job. Since they are a site likely to be accessed by children.


The player who spent $62k on MTX is an adult, not a child.

21-Sep-2019 01:51:21

Dilbert2001

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Dong†U†Dead said:
TinyThi3f said:
Fifi, realistically speaking the responsibility should be partially on all parties involved.

The person spending the 62k for not realising how much they were wasting, or when to walk away.
Jagex for allowing such a ludicrously high amount of income from 1 individual.
And finally the persons bank for not blocking such stupid transactions.

Yes both Jagex and whatever bank they use are both businesses but in extreme circumstances like this both have failed at protecting the consumer.

Which is why thereís been a backlash, and rightly so.

It's not Jagex job. I'm not sure how old the dude in question is, he managed to use his parents credit card quite easily, as someone said earlier in the thread, he took out up to 1K a week up too 62K in total - hell the hell does a parent not see this, that's more than enough for a deposit on a home. I feel there is something fishy here, like they wanted this attention. I believe he and his parents knew exactly what he was up too or his parents liked the piece and quiet and just left him too it.

It reminds of that article about the child addicted to Fortnite, who was up all night playing, wetting his pants ect. The parents new exactly what's happening, they refused to put passwords on, they got the piece and quite they wanted.

It's all bs, blaming the game, blaming Jagex. Become parents and look after your children, simple as that.


Yes, it is extremely strangely as that gamer is an adult, and still had to use his parent's credit card. More strangely, he refused to prove his IRL identity even though GDPR required it.

21-Sep-2019 01:53:28

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Baby†Balth said:
Baby†Balth said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Baby†Balth said:
Dong†U†Dead said:
TinyThi3f said:
Fifi, realistically speaking the responsibility should be partially on all parties involved.

Jagex for allowing such a ludicrously high amount of income from 1 individual.
And finally the persons bank for not blocking such stupid transactions.

Yes both Jagex and whatever bank they use are both businesses but in extreme circumstances like this both have failed at protecting the consumer.
.

It's not Jagex job. I'm not sure how old the dude in question is, he managed to use his parents credit card quite easily, as someone said earlier in the thread, he took out up to 1K a week up too 62K in total - hell the hell does a parent not see this, that's more than enough for a deposit on a home. I feel there is something fishy here, like they wanted this attention. I believe he and his parents knew exactly what he was up too or his parents liked the piece and quiet and just left him too it.

It reminds of that article about the child addicted to Fortnite, who was up all night playing, wetting his pants ect. The parents new exactly what's happening, they refused to put passwords on, they got the piece and quite they wanted.

It's all bs, blaming the game, blaming Jagex. Become parents and look after your children, simple as that.


Actually it is Jagex job. Since they are a site likely to be accessed by children.


The player who spent $62k on MTX is an adult, not a child.


No shit Sherlock. Hardly the point.


Also I do believe if Jagex say that, they will 100% go to jail. Especially if they spell it like that.


The father told Jagex and UK DCMS his son is an adult. If there is something not true, I guess it would be the father going to jail rather.

21-Sep-2019 02:34:57

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