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Kleiner Man1

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Hello!

I just read that there are some very popular Scams, including:

Animation Stalling

Seed Pod Scams



and both seem to be possible in OSRS and RS3.


My question: If I google them, I can even find stuff from 2014. So it seems like all those Scams are possibly since half a decade.

In exact this manner.

My question: Does Jagex not know about all those? Sure they do, because those Scams must have been reported infinite amount of times to them.

What is the reason they dont do anything against it?

In case of Animation Stalling it is even a Bug Abuse / Mechanic Abuse.

In Case of Seed Pod Scamming the "Seed Pod" is used 99% by scammers and less than 1% by real Players I guess.
So why did Jagex also not do ANYTHING here?



These Scams are even more dangerous than all other Scams I know.

Because they always work in a duo team:


1 Guy is contacting you about a very suspicious thing, which will instantly make you know it's a scam. But this is desired.

Because then 1 other Guy is contacting you and saying: Hey, they want to scam you. Want to back-scam then?? Then do what I tell you.

Then the REAL scam is done and THIS you will make you lose your items. A person who has NEVER heard about the scam will always conduct it, as he would never know that this all is part of the evil plan.

I want your opinion why Jagex is not finally doing something to prevent the scams being done. In my opinion it would be so easy to fix all the mechanics that enable that scams.

Even something like with the seed pod *The seed pod will teleport you to the grant tree - continue?* Option when clicked.



Please dont tell me that I should *Report a scam*. This scams are known since ages ... and they were reported 1000 times. It is pointless, therefore they are STILL POSSIBLE in 2019.

Any thoughts on this?

24-Mar-2019 21:22:13 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2019 21:23:59 by Kleiner Man1

ToP BaSS
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You can't always blame Jagex, players must take responsibility for their own actions. 'Anti Scamming' is still scamming.
If Jagex were to change a game mechanic/function to prevent a scam technique then, more than likely, a legitimate portion of a normal game experience would suffer and the scammers would move onto one of the other thousands of scam methods.

24-Mar-2019 23:47:48 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2019 23:48:44 by ToP BaSS

Kleiner Man1

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"If Jagex were to change a game mechanic/function to prevent a scam technique then, more than likely, a legitimate portion of a normal game experience would suffer"


AND THIS is exactly wrong in my opinion and the point that Jagex is showing pathetic behaviour.

It simply would NOT change the game itself by any bad manner. ANIMATION STALLING is a bug, which has to be fixed !!!

Seed Pod scams make you not being able to pick up your items again, by using a dance animation and other stuff on you. How is THIS part of an important game mechanic, that needs to be left in game? Being not able to pick up your items that are directly below you IS a bug abuse.

I knew that such an answer would come. But bro please get totally aware HOW the scammers conduct their stuff. And then you see that they indeed use mechanics that have to be fixed (!) that are not part of anything in the real game.

Last but not least why the hell can't there be a simply warning, when clicking on the seed pod. Like "The seed pod will not teleport you to the grand tree. Continue?" How is this an alteration to the game that would ruin / alterate the regular game experience?

NOT - but Jagex still has no interest of preventing hundrets of people getting scammed by seed pods, since YEARS.

Collecting all this information it is simply the only outcome in mind that Jagex does not want all these stuff to end. That was the reason I created this thread.

25-Mar-2019 09:39:06

Tenebri
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ToP BaSS said:
You can't always blame Jagex, players must take responsibility for their own actions.


i agree with this

there are many anti scamming precautions with in the game. 2 trade screens warnings when item has been changed

warning messages before stepping into dangerous areas etc

it seems the people that fall for the scams blame jagex even though its highly down to the player ignoring these due to greed.

Kleiner Man1 said:
"The seed pod will not teleport you to the grand tree. Continue?"


should it also say this will not teleport you to varrock
it will not teleport you to falador
it will not teleport you to lumbridge
it will not teleport you to ardougne

etc you get the picture why would something tell you where its not going to teleport you to....

Kleiner Man1 said:
Collecting all this information it is simply the only outcome in mind that Jagex does not want all these stuff to end. That was the reason I created this thread.


this is untrue

use some common sense for a second then you wont get scammed and you will see how silly this statement this
the best thing when stupid conspiracy theories come up like this. is to answer this one question. what is the benefit of doing this? there isnt one at all infact its entirely negative people will quit and rage and make negative comments online (like this thread) a lot more if this was true. putting a negative light onto their game. why would they do this?
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25-Mar-2019 09:54:32 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 09:56:55 by Tenebri

Tuffty
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How NOT to Be Scammed Guide

We have a thread above on how to avoid these type of scams.

If people still fall for them then sadly thats not the fault of Jagex. Jagex can't hold peoples hands while they play RuneScape. It's down tot he Community to be upto date on how scams work and how to keep away from them.

Of cause you can still report them. Jagex won't refund your items though. Every scam is checked and dealt with according to the rules.

Just remember you can avoid scams.
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25-Mar-2019 10:33:07 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 10:33:36 by Tuffty

Louiellen

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What can be fixed is the tendency of people to believe in unbelievable claims, claims that are too good to be true. Stop the culture of "quick rich" and "quickly get ahead in the game" mentality of players.

25-Mar-2019 10:37:44

Ladyolake
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There are so many scams out there, once you report 1 then 2 more pop up.

It will always be a challenge to know all the scams and stop them.

Some things may not be able to be "fixed" by Jagex. After all you dont
want to go back to no trading and no wilderness.

all you can do is be viligent and if something sounds fishy dont even
engage in discussing it with the person trying to do the scam.

report and move on.
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25-Mar-2019 10:37:46

Kleiner Man1

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Well I could imagine that some people read this and think:

Ah yes you want Jagex to remove all stuff so you dont have to think on your own anymore to be safe.

YES there are a lot of precautions and scam preventions and whatsoever. But the meaning of this Post goes on top of all this towards another direction.

The thing is: All those scams I mentioned are possibly because of:

50 % people being dumb to believe they could possibly anti-scam a obvious lurer

but also (!)

50 % abusing a game mechanic in an illegal manner to actually conduct the scam.



Yep those 50 % regarding people not thinking enough of all this stuff is true and needs to be higher.
But what is with the real Intention that I have posting here?
With the REAL ABUSE of Bugs / Glitches that make all those scams possible?

If all those abuses would not work, then the scams would not work, even if EVERYONE would believe the scammer.
The final step that makes the person lose their items ist just based on a wrong mechanic and even if all people would be dumb, removing this mechanic would instantly KILL the scam.

And yes: it is a WRONG game mechanic / abuse.

26-Mar-2019 13:52:15

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