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River S0ng
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DoomedSoul said:
Okay, let's start with the big one. The Reaper.

Problem:
The Reaper currently forces players into grouped content which is not a bad thing, more on that later. However, finding teams for the hardest bosses requires hours, if not days, to find a group to take a learner. Also, the gambling aspect of Comp, for some, needs to be removed. What I mean by this is people paying 100m+ for a boss kill. The definition of gamble is to stake something on a contingency, to take a chance. Offering money to a "trusted" player in hopes of getting a kill is nothing more than gambling.

Solution:
Yakamaru, Nex - Angel of Death, Telos, Solak, and Vorago should be considered Mega Bosses and not be required for Comp.

Reason:
The reason the 5 above bosses were chosen is that they consist of the most bullshittery. They have the most mechanics, most health, and all but Telos require teams. These bosses require the best gear, hours to learn, and hours or even days to finds teams taking learners. Notice that Araxxi is not on this list. Telos is here because Araxxi is easier than Telos and also allows an additional player in the arena for help. Also, Beastmaster Durzag isn't on the list because he is multiple times easier than Yakamaru. Again, there has to be some middle ground. We can't exclude every difficult boss in the game.



This right here is one of the exact reasons why I refuse to comp. If they implemented what you said, it would make more of a desire to want to comp. I support this!
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14-Mar-2019 01:35:02

DoomedSoul
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River S0ng said:

This right here is one of the exact reasons why I refuse to comp. If they implemented what you said, it would make more of a desire to want to comp. I support this!


River S0ng, Comp is changing! My idea for having the top 5 or so hardest bosses not being required for Comp has potential for the rework!

DoomedSoul said:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10w4AOBW7hHdPA2mGETaSQhmf4J38H9-i6HpqLVC-Bis/edit

The Reaper will be broken into tiers making the hardest bosses and raids not be required for Comp Tier 1.

"The reaper requirements will be spread out amongst the tiers of combat cape. We haven’t assigned specific bosses to tiers yet, but we’ll make sure this is published well in advance so there shouldn’t be any surprises."

14-Mar-2019 10:22:17

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14-Mar-2019 14:28:22

A Vitalis
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NathanC said:
Can't wait to see PvM teams limit their teams to T2/3 compers only and nothing gets solved on the PvM front.


Can you show me a single team that requires comp cape? Because I've been doing group bosses with a max cape for 2 years now (and with Kal capes before maxing) and not once have I ever been denied from a team for not having comp.

Hell, record teams have players who aren't comped on them. This entire argument is a scapegoat most likely for the fact that either you don't like group PvM or you don't like high level PvM in general. Just be honest and say that instead of making up shit about teams that require comp cape. These teams literally do not exist, and if you ever do run into a team that requires comp cape, odds are whoever is organizing it is an idiot and you want to be as far away from that team as possible anyways.

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15-Mar-2019 06:56:32 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2019 06:59:09 by A Vitalis

KijinSeija

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A Vitalis said:
NathanC said:
Can't wait to see PvM teams limit their teams to T2/3 compers only and nothing gets solved on the PvM front.


Can you show me a single team that requires comp cape? Because I've been doing group bosses with a max cape for 2 years now (and with Kal capes before maxing) and not once have I ever been denied from a team for not having comp.

Hell, record teams have players who aren't comped on them. This entire argument is a scapegoat most likely for the fact that either you don't like group PvM or you don't like high level PvM in general. Just be honest and say that instead of making up shit about teams that require comp cape. These teams literally do not exist, and if you ever do run into a team that requires comp cape, odds are whoever is organizing it is an idiot and you want to be as far away from that team as possible anyways.


Unless you are comped you cant show you are good or dedicated at pvm.

People should and will look at non compers like they are trolls.

Like you since you dont have comp.
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Since I know it will drive you insane! ~
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15-Mar-2019 07:03:09

A Vitalis
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KijinSeija said:

Unless you are comped you cant show you are good or dedicated at pvm.



First off, ironic that you should call anyone a troll, but I knew someone would bring up this point so I might as well use you as an example for people who legitimately do think like this for some reason. Thank you for doing your part.

Anyways, being comped doesn't show that you're "good or dedicated at pvm", in fact a good few comp capers I know can't PvM to save their lives. As long as leeching is possible, Reaper (and by extension comp) doesn't mean shit. Give me the choice between two people, one with Comp who bought their Solak kill and one without comp who didn't, and it's a no brainer who to choose.

There's a lot of good PvMers who just can't be bothered to spend dozens of hours grinding out stupid mindless shit like Arc skilling, Menaphos rep, Livid Farm, etc., all of which has jack all to do with PvM or really anything. This is part of the reason why comp becoming cosmetic is a good thing, even if the way they're going about doing it is kind of questionable.

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15-Mar-2019 11:20:33

River S0ng
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DoomedSoul said:
River S0ng said:

This right here is one of the exact reasons why I refuse to comp. If they implemented what you said, it would make more of a desire to want to comp. I support this!


River S0ng, Comp is changing! My idea for having the top 5 or so hardest bosses not being required for Comp has potential for the rework!

DoomedSoul said:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10w4AOBW7hHdPA2mGETaSQhmf4J38H9-i6HpqLVC-Bis/edit

The Reaper will be broken into tiers making the hardest bosses and raids not be required for Comp Tier 1.

"The reaper requirements will be spread out amongst the tiers of combat cape. We haven’t assigned specific bosses to tiers yet, but we’ll make sure this is published well in advance so there shouldn’t be any surprises."



That would be exciting to see happen! The only thing that pisses me off about this update is that they want/plan to remove Max, QC, and MQC. Other than that, I do actually look forward to the Comp rework.
Spoilers Sweetie!

15-Mar-2019 13:10:28

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