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Every once in a while, a Jmod should actually look through the suggestions subforums and actually consider modified versions of suggestions.

It would certainly make me more inclined to make suggestions, if I knew that there was a chance Jagex might actually take one of my ideas.

It would also motivate me to higher-quality suggestions, and the Jmods would most likely ward off trolls, as well.

Too bad we need them to take this idea in order to take this idea. :p

Regardless, discuss.


Clarification for ppl who didn't understand it, I thought that it was obvious, sorry about my overestimating the average human's intelligence:

JoaoNoFind said:
I'm talking subforums for "Accepted Suggestions" and 'Rejected Suggestions", and once a week or so, a Jmod goes through and files them if they're developed enough to tell, and leaves the newer ones to ripen. It would make suggestions forums much more lively and active.

A thread already judged rejected could be reworked until at least moved back to normal, and a thread accepted would be added to the game in some way.

I just want them to pay attention to their official forums dedicated suggestion subforums, instead of "Oh, hey, somebody suggested a new F2P hill giant boss on reddit, let's add it."

That's fine that they pay attention to reddit, but I've never seen a similarly non-QOL idea suggested on the RSOF make it into the game.
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19-May-2019 14:45:39 - Last edited on 19-May-2019 20:42:52 by JoaoNoFind

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fuck that was supposed to be in the website and forums thing somebody move it pls
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19-May-2019 14:51:13

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Dark Moon X5 said:
Moved to proper forum at authors request. :)

If I also could add by two cents, the suggestions forums aren't just there for users to dump suggestions into that Jagex don't look at or incorporate! While there's not as much time for Jagex to be moderating or replying to threads on suggestions forums directly, there are definitely dedicated people collecting feedback and suggestions to make the game better for our players.

There have been many suggestions in the past incorporated into the game from ninja fixes to certain game-play efficiency ideas. It's just harder to detect which updates come from suggestions unless you've stumbled upon the suggestions thread yourself to be honest. :P


Thanks.

And anyway, I don't mean tiny QOL shit, I mean ACTUAL IDEAS, like gigantic new skills.
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19-May-2019 20:25:27

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Draco Burnz said:
Also just saying, but just because a jmod doesn't comment on a thread doesn't mean they didnt look at it.


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19-May-2019 20:25:45

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Tenebri said:
Pretty much everything been said. Unsure what the reserves are for to be honest. Hey post count yay


But yeah the ones ive seen they have responded to. Were big threads of actual interest. Not silly ones like new phat colours...

Or ones they want to do but cant and they say this


They're for supporters. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll never get very much PC at all, and I just don't care anymore.

Also I count 2 personal attacks against me here.

I've made plenty of big threads, some even with multiple pages of packed-full-of-high-quality-interesting-and-balanced content, and nothing, so that can't be right.....
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19-May-2019 20:27:39 - Last edited on 19-May-2019 20:44:56 by JoaoNoFind

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4ev said:
I've had more than a few of my suggestions implemented.
Can i get links? betting they were QOL, bugfixes, or obvious, generic stuff they would have implemented with or without you, not, say, whole new skills.

They do look at the suggestions forums. Also, as Tenebri said, they generally wait till the community has DISCUSSED the idea before posting that they are considering it. If your suggestion is not of the caliber that people want to discuss it, honestly there's little hope.
"Yes, sir, it IS relevant to this discussion that I live near a mcdonalds!"

So your statement of them showing more interest before you up the quality of your posts is very counter-productive. Up your quality and they might show some interest ;)
I meant ppl might put more effort into their posts if they though Jmods might see it, myself making suggestions here is already about 10 hours of my day gone.

One well thought out idea is worth more than 100 ideas quickly thrown together without merit due to how quickly they were thrown together.
and this is also relevant and important, and most definitely pertaining to the discussion at hand, said a guy with molten pants and a 500-light-year-long nose!

I'd also like to point out that all of 'my' ideas that were implemented, were in all reality, formed by the community, because they started out as one thing, but were polished by the feedback of other forumers.
Um.....also not relevant? w0w.


Hope this helps.


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19-May-2019 20:28:45 - Last edited on 19-May-2019 20:37:58 by JoaoNoFind

JoaoNoFind

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I'm talking subforums for "Accepted Suggestions" and 'Rejected Suggestions", and once a week or so, a Jmod goes through and files them if they're developed enough to tell, and leaves the newer ones to ripen. It would make suggestions forums much more lively and active.

A thread already judged rejected could be reworked until at least moved back to normal, and a thread accepted would be added to the game in some way.

I just want them to pay attention to their official forums dedicated suggestion subforums, instead of "Oh, hey, somebody suggested a new F2P hill giant boss on reddit, let's add it."

That's fine that they pay attention to reddit, but I've never seen a similarly non-QOL idea suggested on the RSOF make it into the game.
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19-May-2019 20:30:19 - Last edited on 19-May-2019 20:42:35 by JoaoNoFind

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4ev said:
Tenebri said:
Pretty much everything been said. Unsure what the reserves are for to be honest.
Hey post count yay


But yeah the ones ive seen they have responded to. Were big threads of actual interest.
Not silly ones like new phat colours...

Or ones they want to do but cant and they say this




And that shall be the last of my feedback for you sir. I hope you have a wonderful experience on the forums, but I shall do my best to avoid you in the future, as I am not fond of the way you've responded here and elsewhere. This is not a personal attack, but rather some feedback that you shouldn't alienate people, that may be why you feel your threads aren't getting the feedback you want.


That was never my intention. I don't believe I have alienated anyone, at least I've certainly never done that on purpose, and am sincerely sorry that you feel that way.

As far as "Elsewhere", I treat every thread as a new world, full of possibilities and promise. No matter how someone annoys me on one thread, I treat them on another thread as a completely new person, in a completely new world.

tl;dr I'm very sorry that you feel that way.
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20-May-2019 20:04:12 - Last edited on 20-May-2019 20:24:49 by JoaoNoFind

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Mod Lyon said:
Hi,

JMods do read the suggestion forums. We aren't however going to start creating "promise forums" where we either have to begin work immediately (on new skills..) or request that a user changes their idea until we 'approve' it and then again, have to start work on a new skill.

If we were to do 'Approved' and 'Denied' as already mentioned, we would reopen RuneLabs. That however wasn't as helpful as we'd hoped and only a few players really took advantage. We don't want to be in the same position again.

As for quoting and changing the content, it was clear what was done. Please don't derail threads. If you think something was done maliciously use forum help rather than derail a thread.

Thanks,
Mod Lyon


well, I guess that's that, huh....

TBH I don't think anybody here got what I was trying to say anyway, I guess I could have explained it better. :/

I'm not sure who you were talking to with the last bit, or what it means.

I suppose that would be the end of this, then. I got the idea from lots of other game's forums that do the same thing.
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20-May-2019 20:27:34

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Mod Lyon said:
JoaoNoFind said:
Mod Lyon said:
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well, I guess that's that, huh....

TBH I don't think anybody here got what I was trying to say anyway, I guess I could have explained it better. :/

I'm not sure who you were talking to with the last bit, or what it means.

I suppose that would be the end of this, then. I got the idea from lots of other game's forums that do the same thing.


My understanding is you'd like two new forums created to supplement the existing suggestion forums. One which Jagex staff would move ideas which we had taken on board and begun development on, another which suggested to the user that their idea needed further iteration, to eventually be moved either back into the regular suggestion forum or into the 'Approved' forum.

Ideas in the 'Approved' forum would be, effectively, promises to develop content.

If that's not the case, feel free to expand :)

As for my last paragraph, I hid the posts. The users involved know who they are.


aight.

Maybe ideas wouldn't be moved into the 'Approved' forum unless you'd finished developing them, and put them in the game. That's exactly how it works in most other game forums.

Of course, you already stated that this would not be happening, so it's a moot point regardless, I suppose. :)
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21-May-2019 14:12:24

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Joe Bill64 said:
Infernix over in OSRS Suggestions slavin away the ideas. I see em over there, don't know if Jagex does... keep at them, they are an interesting read, imo. 'thumbs up emoji'


Thanks man! And yeah, I have SO MANY content suggestions. I have a google doc for all my osrs content suggestions (Not even all, actually, like half of them l0l) and it's like 200 pages. Font size 11.
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21-May-2019 21:00:59

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Mod Lyon said:
JoaoNoFind said:
Mod Lyon said:
JoaoNoFind said:
Mod Lyon said:
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well, I guess that's that, huh....

TBH I don't think anybody here got what I was trying to say anyway, I guess I could have explained it better. :/

I'm not sure who you were talking to with the last bit, or what it means.

I suppose that would be the end of this, then. I got the idea from lots of other game's forums that do the same thing.


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aight.

Maybe ideas wouldn't be moved into the 'Approved' forum unless you'd finished developing them, and put them in the game. That's exactly how it works in most other game forums.

Of course, you already stated that this would not be happening, so it's a moot point regardless, I suppose. :)


Like I mentioned, you've basically described <a href="https://runescape.wiki/w/RuneLabs" target="_blank" rel="noopener">RuneLabs</a>. Our work on RuneLabs wasn't as helpful as we'd hoped, maybe in the future we'll look more into it though.

Nothing, as I say, in the pipeline though.


That's all right. Anyway, I'd be fine with just a reasonable likelihood that a Jmod will at least see the suggestion, if not comment on or implement it.
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