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Miu

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4ev said:
Miu said:
Jagex has already proved consistently they don't care about alt abuse.

Why create a rule for something that they don't care about? Why create a rule when they can't have fmods able to enforce it in any legitimate capacity?


I'm just suggesting it. Whether or not it is possible/beneficial is yet to be seen. All that I can do is suggest what I think would help the game.


You suggest a solution to a problem that Jagex is not concerned with. Jagex is hardly concerned with the forums in the first place, and wiping out a few alts to appease the twenty-something people that use the forums is never going to even blip on their radar.
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17-May-2019 14:28:07

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Louiellen said:
4ev said:
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I feel like this is already an implied rule.

The problem with explicitly stating this rule 4ev, is that it's unenforceable. Fmods don't have the ability to check IP addresses like Jagex do.

Given the forum activity of Jmods, how much can we expect Jmods to investigate alleged cases of forum disruption via multiple alts?


That's a valid point. I do know on most of the forums, etc. that I moderate/moderated I have/had permissions to see IPs, and even ended up writing a script for the one to test for alts (comparing all IPs ever used to post with) so I could connect accounts when one got really bad. People forget to switch VPNs occasionally (or use the same one later) if they go that far to hide their connections. I see that isn't really possible here without giving Fmods extra visibility, which could be viewed as private information.

Personally I would be okay with Fmods having that power, but I'm sure some wouldn't, so I won't even bother going down that path as a suggestion.

Maybe they just need better tools for the Fmods so they can act more appropriately? For example, Jagex could have a list of linked confirmed alts, infractions across those accounts, etc. in a hidden section of the forums.

It could potentially take a lot of work on the front end to gather that info, but I see the long term benefits being more than rewarding


Delegation of such capability to fmods is not feasible IMHO, since the UK Data Privacy Law prevents non-employees of a company from viewing/accessing customer data.


Would an IP address even be considered such data?

Is a username, technically, data belonging to the customer?
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18-May-2019 02:23:01

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Southeaster said:
Louiellen said:

Delegation of such capability to fmods is not feasible IMHO, since the UK Data Privacy Law prevents non-employees of a company from viewing/accessing customer data.

This sounds like an excuse to avoid having to do anything.

I have witnessed a Fmod telling someone on Forum Help not to hide behind his alt when reporting flame posts baited by his main. I can screenshot it and post it here with names blanked out if you wish.
This is just another example on how Jagex doesn't really care about alt abuse. I mean, people don't even bother hiding when they make use of an alt, because they know they won't be punished. It's blatantly obvious.
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18-May-2019 02:24:02

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