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westonasdf
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Is Jagex EVER gonna address this? It's at the point where me, Gozz, all my alts, all his alts, Camelus, Angel, and everyone else who never agree witch each other agree with each other on this one topic. That's how big of a threat it is to game integrity.

All jokes aside, the fact is that it's more than just QOL at this point. While I would glaadly support more QOL updates coming to the official client (and whether or not this is a good idea is up for debate), third party clients such as Runelite are offering more than just that. Examples include Demonic Gorillas, Cerberus, and Jad overlays. These overlays are telling you what to pray and when. This completely takes out the skilled aspect of these PvM bosses.

These bosses were meant to be intense and challenging. They're harder and more rewarding alternatives for a reason. Runelite has taken out the harder part and left the rewards as is. They weren't supposed to be laidback. That's what regular TzHaars, black demons, and hellhounds are for. This has allowed players to get the laidback aspect of it while reaping the rewards of their boss variants.

When balancing content, you nerf it in some areas to buff it in others. This has allowed a buff in the areas that were initially proposed to be nerfed. The wholle purpose is to provide variety, prevent AFKing, and overall make the game more of a challenge all of which Runelite destroyed.

While I personally am extremely guilty of this and it's made me more willing to do these bosses that I otherwise wouldn't, this isn't good at all for game integrity. You shouldn't really punish the people who abuse these overlays but the people who make them. Adam from Runelite once stated that his goal was to compete with OSB so that players wouldn't have to pay for OSB Pro just to be put on the same level as others. He wanted to even out the playing field. OSB has NEVER offered any features that devalue PvM besides Raids scouting (which I also think should never have existed).
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18-Nov-2018 21:29:22

westonasdf
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At this point, he's just making the entire game a total joke. He's already leveled out the playing field. Updates that only require one click to get to the astral or ZMI altar from a bank, two clicks to the soul altar from the dark altar, etc are breaking his promise to keep it an even playing field. He's putting players that use his client above players who use other clients.

Now, don't get the wrong idea. I don't intend to turn this into a war between clients. I want them ALL receiving the same punishment. They're all equally game-breaking and worthy of bans. I understand that many of us have been babied with the use of third party clients for what feels like centuries now, but it's got to stop.

It's at the point where players are becoming better PvMers through the use of broken overlays. It's allowing players to do what they otherwise couldn't do before. Jagex has mentioned in their streams that covering up the poll results until after a player has voted, if not until after the poll is complete, is a matter of game integrity. However, they will not do this because of their strong belief that third party clients would just create an overlay to show voters the percentages that each question was on beforehand.

The fact is that it's hindered so many different parts of the game and Jagex has dug themselves into a ditch with this. They've allowed us to get used to this just like they did with the snake before they nerfed it. Void was even worse. I don't think that it was ever changed in the main game until it got ruined completely along with most other gear with EoC. Of course, the riots were intense and people were raging all over the forums and reddit left and right about how they were gonna quit and OSRS was all about the community, but in the end no one quit and the game just kept growing as it had before any of it happened.

When third party clients are hindering the game as a whole, I think it's s safe assumption that they need to go. It's not too late.
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18-Nov-2018 21:29:26 - Last edited on 18-Nov-2018 21:38:48 by westonasdf

westonasdf
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westonasdf

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The sooner, the better. We don't want our new players to start getting accustomed to these broken overlays alongside the veterans. That'd just result in an even bigger mess. I could rant at Jagex all day for how they created this mess, but it's all our problem in the end. Git gud nubnubs. L2PK nubnubs. Statuettes are here to stay nubnubs. Spite vote harder plz nubnubs.

18-Nov-2018 21:29:30 - Last edited on 18-Nov-2018 21:41:23 by westonasdf

The Old Cody

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I see the point in this, but since everyone already uses third party clients I imagine it would be hard to put an end.. I could see a huge backlash if jagex tried doing this
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18-Nov-2018 21:36:01

westonasdf
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westonasdf

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The Old Cody said:
I see the point in this, but since everyone already uses third party clients I imagine it would be hard to put an end.. I could see a huge backlash if jagex tried doing this


Addressed that :P Zulrah was the same and people were crying their eyes out about quitting yet the game grew. We don't want new players getting accustomed to these clients. They need to learn to fix problems quickly before they grow out of control.
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18-Nov-2018 21:39:48

Nikolas10181
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Support they also believed that removing NMZ would cause people to quit and yet NMZ almost destroyed the game by being left in. If not being able to use a third party client makes you quit you didn't care about this game in the first place. Bring memes to OSRS general forum

18-Nov-2018 21:46:16

westonasdf
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westonasdf

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Nikolas10181 said:
Support they also believed that removing NMZ would cause people to quit and yet NMZ almost destroyed the game by being left in. If not being able to use a third party client makes you quit you didn't care about this game in the first place.


That "if" condition doesn't apply to anyone. No one's gonna quit lul.
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18-Nov-2018 21:59:47

XIRang3mag3I
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It's never going to pass. I'm indifferent on this whole thing but I know for a fact it'll never happen. Keep crying all ya want m8 but third party clients are here to stay. Either use em or don't.

18-Nov-2018 22:36:07

westonasdf
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westonasdf

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333333333 said:
Or just don't use them!


And put myself at a huge disadvantage? That's exactly like asking for a squeal of fortune and saying that whoever doesn't like them doesn't have to use them. It still devalues the gameplay overall.
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18-Nov-2018 22:49:53

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