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Prestor John
Aug Member 2016

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Why is it that every time an update fails in a poll it seems to show up in a quality of life Hotfix?

It seems to me this betrays the very idea that old school runescape was founded and achieved success from, player consent. it may be a foreign concept to players screaming for updates only to mock and chastise the community for being cynical, but the reason the player base is cynical in the first place was unwanted updates in the past. EOC anyone? Are we just to throw caution to the wind and repeat the dark ages that nearly killed runescape?

Let's be honest here. F2p teleblock has failed either 3 or 4 different polls just as an example. The player base has stated 3 or 4 times that it did not agree on this update. So what does Jagex do? Tell us to sit down and shut up they're going to do it anyway. It is sad and disrespectful for a company to continue to treat it''s player base this way.

And this isn't just F2p teleblock. For example when content polls fail the first time they just seem to be re-worded and repolled. Look at the revenant caves as an example. And in that example it was clear a certain moderator had monetary interest in it''s passage.

Ban me for criticizing the mismanaged and corrupt company behind this game as much as you want. But as much as you hate it you know I'm speaking the truth.

All updates should be polled! No exceptions.

I do not want rs3. Monetarily Jagex does not want another rs3. Yet here we are going down the exact same path.

Why are we forcing updates that have been voted down Jagex? Would love to hear from a Jmod.
No update without representation!

16-May-2019 06:19:41 - Last edited on 16-May-2019 06:20:20 by Prestor John

Miu

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The biggest offender in this category was changing how dropped items work in the wilderness.

Jagex polled items instantly appearing when dropped in the wilderness. It failed. They then pushed it through as an integrity update. Regardless on whether you feel this is a good change or not, this does two things.

One, it makes the drop mechanics inconsistent between different areas of the game. This isn't listed anywhere, so it can confuse new players, returning old players unaware of the change, or just anyone expecting consistency.

Two, having items instantly appear creates opportunity for luring.

With the change, it was also updated so that food wouldn't appear for others when dropped. This can lead to potential sabotaging, like dropping your food before you die, so your killer won't be able to heal up following the kill.


This was a huge change that was made based purely on Jagex's whim and not the pking community. What that change and this latest blog shows is that Jagex is willing to do whatever they can to turn PvP into their own twisted vision of what they feel PvP should be, disregarding the actual desires of the community in the process.
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16-May-2019 08:00:24

MommyAlexa
Jan Member 2019

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Literally no PvP update can ever seem to pass a poll. It's an actual integrity issue at this point. Until they find a criteria for PKer-only polls, every PvP update should just be hotfixed in whether it's a revs buff to tank skilling resources or just a minor BH rework.

Everyone else told the PvP community to sit down and shut up time and time again and theh finally got sick of everyone else's shit. It's about time tbh. This was well-deserved and nothing comparable to EoC. The reason EoC ruined the game is because it killed off several PKing builds. The reason the removal of the wilderness killed the game is because it ruined PvP. They've always been at the center of everything.

Don't want revs to have an OP drop table? Vote yes to proper uniques that'd benefit the economy. If you can't refrain from spite voting, then shut up and sit down while you guy something even worse than you could've ever imagined.
Don't solely bash risky drop tables and not the risk-free ones then wonder why the JGods shut your opinions out when analyzing why PvP polls never pass.

16-May-2019 09:49:47 - Last edited on 16-May-2019 09:53:52 by MommyAlexa

NonMax Jake
Nov Member 2018

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They shouldn't have polled integrity updates. That'd be like polling zulrah nerf. Please remember that the forum is not for debating. It is for echoing views only. If you see someone opposing someone else's views, please report this so it can be dealt with.

16-May-2019 11:13:14

NonMax Jake
Nov Member 2018

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"F2P teleblock is RS3!!!"

Lol what. That's your issue with RS3 lmfao?
Please remember that the forum is not for debating. It is for echoing views only. If you see someone opposing someone else's views, please report this so it can be dealt with.

16-May-2019 11:14:31 - Last edited on 16-May-2019 11:14:46 by NonMax Jake

Notcool97
Dec Member 2016

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MommyAlexa said:
Don't want revs to have an OP drop table? Vote yes to proper uniques that'd benefit the economy. If you can't refrain from spite voting, then shut up and sit down while you guy something even worse than you could've ever imagined.
Artisan should be forced in with skilling content that makes 5mil gp/h and devalues other parts of the game since it lost a poll, clearly due to spite voting PKers and PvMers.

16-May-2019 13:47:00

MommyAlexa
Jan Member 2019

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Notcool97 said:
MommyAlexa said:
Don't want revs to have an OP drop table? Vote yes to proper uniques that'd benefit the economy. If you can't refrain from spite voting, then shut up and sit down while you guy something even worse than you could've ever imagined.
Artisan should be forced in with skilling content that makes 5mil gp/h and devalues other parts of the game since it lost a poll, clearly due to spite voting PKers and PvMers.


Lol, you know how I am. What I think should be polled is the fucking ToB drop table with only skillers being allowed to decide shit.
Don't solely bash risky drop tables and not the risk-free ones then wonder why the JGods shut your opinions out when analyzing why PvP polls never pass.

16-May-2019 13:52:59

MommyAlexa
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NonMax Jake said:
They shouldn't have polled integrity updates. That'd be like polling zulrah nerf.


Careful. FisherGaming used to support the Zulrah nerf but believed that it should've been polled before he ragequit these forums.
Don't solely bash risky drop tables and not the risk-free ones then wonder why the JGods shut your opinions out when analyzing why PvP polls never pass.

16-May-2019 13:53:49

Secret Max

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Prestor John said:
Why is it that every time an update fails in a poll it seems to show up in a quality of life Hotfix?

It seems to me this betrays the very idea that old school runescape was founded and achieved success from, player consent. it may be a foreign concept to players screaming for updates only to mock and chastise the community for being cynical, but the reason the player base is cynical in the first place was unwanted updates in the past. EOC anyone? Are we just to throw caution to the wind and repeat the dark ages that nearly killed runescape?

Let's be honest here. F2p teleblock has failed either 3 or 4 different polls just as an example. The player base has stated 3 or 4 times that it did not agree on this update. So what does Jagex do? Tell us to sit down and shut up they're going to do it anyway. It is sad and disrespectful for a company to continue to treat it''s player base this way.

And this isn't just F2p teleblock. For example when content polls fail the first time they just seem to be re-worded and repolled. Look at the revenant caves as an example. And in that example it was clear a certain moderator had monetary interest in it''s passage.

Ban me for criticizing the mismanaged and corrupt company behind this game as much as you want. But as much as you hate it you know I'm speaking the truth.

All updates should be polled! No exceptions.

I do not want rs3. Monetarily Jagex does not want another rs3. Yet here we are going down the exact same path.

Why are we forcing updates that have been voted down Jagex? Would love to hear from a Jmod.
AHAHAHAHA about god damn time. Tired of people spite voting pkers/pvp because they can't pvp or are to scared of the wilderness. Good on jagex.

16-May-2019 14:42:51

Prestor John
Aug Member 2016

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So in other words polls don't make a bit of difference anymore because a minority of players think something is neccessary?

I don't mind f2p teleblocl I only said it should have passed a poll. And anyway if it's a spite vote because skillers hate pkers does that really represent something the game needs? I see only negative consequences to ignoring votes. This will make one side more spiteful and ignore the wild in general. This will in time destroy the wilderness.

And yes I am cynical about updates. But as I stated above I am for a reason. We forget that reason only to repeat the mistakes of our past.

No updates without a vote.
No update without representation!

16-May-2019 16:13:17

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