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Captn lnsano
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Captn lnsano

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To start I have two ideas that are almost moreso questions than anything else, as I am sure there's a logical reason behind each - I just can't quite figure out they why for each.

I'll start with Infernal Eels. Among the most commonly fished eels there are Sacred and Infernal. Sacred Eels of course can be cut up for Zulrah Scales - good source of skilling cash - as well as provide excellent cooking experience. This is where my first question comes into play:
Why don't you earn crafting experience from Infernal Eels? It seems like it would make sense and it could allow there to be an increase in profitability depending on crafting level, similar to zulrah scale numbers to increase as cooking does. Perhaps the percentage chance of getting bolt tips/lava scales goes up as your crafting increases (due to your character being able to more deftly crack open the fish - idk). I just feel like it would be a value add and provide more incentive to get crafting up. Again I'm sure this has been thought of so this more so is me wondering the downfall of something like this. The xp of course should be minimal - almost similar to the Str/Agility xp gained through barb fishing (~10%).

The second content idea is why do you not have the ability to build a bird house in your POH garden? I feel like that would be a great addition if, say, you have "x" farming level you can build "x" type of birdhouse and so on, so forth. This wouldn't create a massive overhaul to bird houses/hunter in general, however over time having one additional bird house would make a big difference (effectively a 20% jump in XP/Nests/Seeds received per run).

Again, I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of these so I'm more so seeking an answer as to why they wouldn't be good content to add. Or, if there aren't many good reasons, then I can say these are two things I would personally be happy to see in the game.

02-Jul-2019 16:11:46

Clawdragons
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Currently nothing in your PoH, that I know of, is limited across rooms. That is, you could, if you wanted, make a house made up of tons and tons of Gilded Altars, or Ornate Pools, or have a ton of rooms with a display case to each boss.

The birdhouse would need to be an exception, because otherwise a player could fill their house to the brim with gardens with birdhouses, which would be a massive increase to overall exp.

I'm also not sure if timed-based effects work in a PoH.

And on a personal note, I don't really like the idea of a birdhouse being in a PoH. I just don't feel like content from "out in the world" should be added to the PoH. Seems kind of gimmicky - I wouldn't want you to be able to fill your house with cuttable trees either, as an example, or with farming patches.

So yeah there's some reasons against that.

As for the Infernal Eels, I agree, I think you should get a little bit of crafting experience - I think an even smaller amount than you though. I'm thinking in the 5 exp range, give or take a little bit.

02-Jul-2019 19:53:25

Notcool97

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I agree with claw about bird houses.

I don't really care much about infernal eels. With or without crafting XP they are pointless to fish, their XP/h isn't great and they are pretty lousy gp/h. Given they are locked behind owning a firecape, probably the highest req of fishing content in the game, I'd have expected them to be a lot more worthwhile to do, at least compared to say monkfish.

02-Jul-2019 20:52:34

Clawdragons
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Notcool97 said:
I agree with claw about bird houses.

I don't really care much about infernal eels. With or without crafting XP they are pointless to fish, their XP/h isn't great and they are pretty lousy gp/h. Given they are locked behind owning a firecape, probably the highest req of fishing content in the game, I'd have expected them to be a lot more worthwhile to do, at least compared to say monkfish.


One genuine advantage of them is how extremely AFK they are - more so than just about any other form of fishing. The spots don't move much, and when they do they don't move very far, and you never need to bank.

I fish them sometimes when I'm really busy with other stuff, and they do have some application for collecting lava scale shards. I see other people there occasionally too - so they aren't great, to be sure, but at the same time they aren't dead content. If I were proposing underpowered content to buff up, they would be pretty far down the list.

02-Jul-2019 22:34:21 - Last edited on 02-Jul-2019 22:34:45 by Clawdragons

Captn lnsano
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Captn lnsano

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Honestly hadn't even thought about the fact that "outer world" xp inside POH just simply isn't a thing so I understand why putting birdhouses into a POH would go against every part of construction - so I appreciate ya going into that.

With regards to eels, though, yeah they're AFK and not bankable but same with sacred's and, frankly, barb fishing, so idk if that's necessarily a cause to rule out the chance for secondary xp. The only thing I could think of is that increasing the popularity of fishing Infernal Eels may have a secondary impact on the price of Onyx gems but that's a pretty silo'd impact...

And re/ crafting xp per fish honestly 5 seems fine to me - at 5% and starting to fish at 80 you'd at most be able to get 67 crafting through this method. And if they did it similar to Sacred Eels training that way would have a negative impact financially as the bolt tips/scales you receive would be greatly reduced at lower levels.

02-Jul-2019 23:09:30

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